so instead they'll have the epa do climate change. immigration, they could have have had congress pass the dream act, but that might have helped some republicans before the last election, so instead the president issued an executive order. >> david: dan, that's the fact is that the administration would rather avoid going through congress because they're dealing with a republican-held house so therefore, they use executive order and epa and other administrative devices that they have to get what they want. >> they'd rather go through the back door, david. this is governing by the back door and the problem is you get no sense what the public, the american people want on these enormously important issues. they're left out in the cold and later they find out they're at each other's throats because it was never resolved in a democratic way. >> david: this is kind of like the supreme court making legislative decisions, is it not, mary? >> one big problem here is that important change is never going to come from washington. it's always going